Sunday, August 10, 2008

Is u a bich or what

Blessing: My home boy Issac Hayes just died. Dang. Grammy. Hats off folk. Lived up street from me. First home studio ever went in. my neighbor-shaft dang. folk

Point of order: 1] My crab apples are really blooming this year (see pic).

2] Thanks to BlackTVonline for the best black political blog and SJP for honoring me with the Emblem of the helping hand award.


In English class, we use to have to do explicative writing, where we take the stanzas and sections of a book and use the words to make a point. So I’m bout to try this shit with a recent song by TI. The name of this essay is “is u a bich or what.” Now being a south Parkway jones from Memphis , Ten, some of us got certain standards. The recent song by TI called “whatever you like” goes against this understanding. Take the chorus in the hook:

Stacks on deck Patrone on ice And we can pop bottles all night Baby you could have whatever you like (you like) I said you could have whatever you like (you like)

Now tricking, is only reserved for our kids and our women, but then that aint tricking. For if you have it or not, a real ni double g a gone do what needs to be done, within respect to life, liberty and others property for his kids and woman to have. We call that responsibility and it got nothing to do with getting loot nor having Patrone (which aint a good Tequila and got no worm) on ice or not, for it aint hard to tell.

In another verse in the song the author sings”

Anytime you want to pick up the telephone
You know it ain't nothing to drop a couple stacks on you
Wanted you could get it my dear
Five million dollar home, drop Bentley's I swear

Now from the understanding of a trill jones, it aint about stacks on deck unless they invested, in gold, or currency or the education of ones self or children. Now the unfortunate thing is that such dictates that a woman, or even worse all women are just merely objects like slaves to be bought, or purchased, and not enamored with gifts of love. For if love was unequivocally important, then a disclaimer of some sort would be in order. However, the reduced generalization is towards a woman, who think that she is only a form of value in terms of how much money is spent on her – at the crib we call this a ho.

Yeah I want'cho body, I need yo body
Long as you got me you won't need nobody
You want it I got it, go get it I buy it
Tellem other broke niggas be quiet

The aforementioned is a moot point for unless one is gay, they gone want to stick they horse inside a woman. Moreover, it is a reflection of low self-worth and value for the suggestion is that ones money makes the person, in this case man. This asserts that the ability to think, hold a descent conversation or what one can achieve with their mind is not important – to either what defines a man in his pursuit of a woman, or what a woman sees in a man of being of value.

This is repeated in the song again. Take the following lyrics for instance:

I'm talkin' big boy rides
And big boy ice
Let me put this big boy in yo life

For the sagacious, even if one had the ability to afford such, in a time when oil may be approaching $200.00 a barrel and fuel efficiency in the average car is virtually no existent, the suggestion that buying such vehicles and buying jewelry to match, when it may be the result of a miner in South Africa who is prevented from seeing his wife to mine such, or a young child maimed or killed in a war to obtain such “ice”, is merely a sign of selfishness traditionally reflective of western world belief orientation. There is nothing wrong with obtaining wealth, just letting such define what and who one is. This made more paramount in the following stanza:


Cause errbody know it ain't trickin if ya got it
Ya need to never ever gotta go to yo wallet

Even more problematic is that believing that a woman, or man doesn’t have to work to provide for themselves, or support themselves, may be more harmful to the community as a whole, creating a destitute populous of folks that would rather receive handouts, feel that they should be giving things with out hard work, or in encouraging the belief that I am entitled to things with out work just because I want them.

In summary, although a song and not a poem or piece of well written short fiction, this song seems to represent the suggestion that value can only be in what one is worth and that anything, even a meaningful relationship or another person can be had if the price is right. Moreover it offers the belief that working and providing for oneself moot for any person, especially a woman. From this perspective, the only difference between the aforementioned works is that it is played on radio’s continuously and is more prevelant than books or the written word. The general translation of the song could be literally, "is u a bich or what"; specific to both men and women who abide by such beliefs. The beat is funky and the hook is catchy however, it makes one think that if Kanye West was offered by the KKK to produce a song for them called “Hang that Nigga from a tree”, that many would listen to it, that it would be played on the radio incessantly, that we would say it is just a song and not find it offensive.

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64 comments:

Charming Driver said...

Problem is with songs that directly and overtly objectify women via sex & violence, it's easy (as Chris Rock has said) to think, ''He ain't talking about me'' to justify listening to and supporting such songs.

Conversely, in the song you de-constructed, it's much easier to listen to and support because many people will think, ''I wish that was me; I wish I had it like that'' without ever realizing the objectification and outright dismissal of their person-hood is just as blatant and equally damaging.

Kenya said...

I was at a wedding reception last night where the DJ played the radio edit version of Kanye West's Goldigger. Even though it was the radio edit wedding guest who were singing/rapping along with the song felt free to say "but she ain't messin' wit no broke niggas." It was a pretty diverse crowd with Asians, Pakistanis, Indians but mostly white and only two black people including me. I don't know what to make of it. Some of us have made it okay for people to say this probably not knowing the implications of it.

The Socialite said...

Congrats on your nominations! Keep up the good work!

Traycee said...

Big Congrats...I love the way you broke down the lyrics....Most people fall in love with the beats and arrangements of the song and really don't pay attention to the lyrics....Great Post....

BeKinky_Paula said...

I would say that advocating for supporting the woman financially isn't necessarily not encouraging hard work on her part. After all, many white women that marry white men are housewives. Of course they all have degrees but mostly their work is in taking care of the home. (which is hard work) But I understand its completely different from the song. lol The difference is they are getting married (lol)

I had to throw that out there though lol

And cool, you have crab apples, you should have a garden. Fruits, veggies and flowers....could save a lot of money...

Pretty much, people listen to those lyrics and they find no problem with it. I would rather go the route of saying that they heard a nice beat but the truth is people know what these songs are saying.

Go to youtube and search "Plies Bust It Baby contest". These women (Yes, GROWN, old, got kids and all...maybe even grandkids) could clearly explain what a "Bust it Baby" was & they did not find it offensive or problematic.

But thats what Black women are taught (in the hood at least). If I didnt have my mama then I'd probably buy into that crap. Because you know, since I was about 14 years old, grown men were offering to buy me stuff...of course in exchange for something. Luckily I didn't fall for it. But when you are taught (in the home and in society) that you are worthless, it's easy to fall off into feeling like it's no big deal because you're getting what you want or you're getting over on the guy.

I think its a small piece to a very large puzzle of why and how Black women come to being devalued, degraded, and objectified. It wasn't the beginning but it definately is a continuation and a sure way to spread it and make it more acceptable.

BeKinky_Paula said...

Actually search "Bust it baby casting call"

BeKinky_Paula said...

Oh and Congrats on the nomination!!!

Marcus LANGFORD said...

This post bruh...man, this was great post. I liked the break down of everything, especially your call-out about the miners in Africa that killed or maimed to collect the diamonds that so many fools around the world wear around their neck, wrist, and fingers; it is very selfish indeed!

Thanks for sharing this piece.

:::Marcus LANGFORD:::

OG, The Original Glamazon said...

Nah T, the difference is this is what many youth believe. Shall I refer you back to your post 38 down? Many men even if they don't keep it as HOOD as TI or have as much paper stacked, believe that women will flock to being taken care of.

Many women expect and want to be taken care of and say if a man loves me he will spend his time and money with and on me. PERIOD. They expect gifts.

Even when I dating my ex-husband on our first date he called himself flossing telling me he owned his own business. He was very surprised when I was like oh yeah but what your IRA looking like, you got a life insurance policy, what about health and dental. (note before we split he had ALL THAT and I am sure he flossed that to the new honey dips he was dating).

Needless to say as much as it ain't right many men and women believe women are a commodity to be bought and sold. Many women spend there life getting dressed up so they can catch one of these rich cats slipping.

So I can't say Kanye is going to produce for the KKK but he will continue to produce tracks that talk about what we have (or haven't) been teaching our kids.

Have a good Sunday.

-OG

OG, The Original Glamazon said...

Oh yeah there are also a thing as conflict free diamonds, not that I think TI is rocking them!! OR that any stone really is truly conflict free unless you find it yourself.

-OG

Blog Queen said...

What's up Doc! Look at you using my hook in your post Sagacious. I visited blackTVonline and cast my vote for my favorite PhD.

Catch u later!
Roschelle

rainywalker said...

Learned something from the one here, haven't heard the other one and don't want to.

Lovebabz said...

Love love love the music!

I am a huge fan!

Anonymous said...

OMG..are you serious??

Kitty said...

Sad news this weekend for our Black stars, eh? Congrats on the noms! First Bernie, now Isaac.
It's hard no to notice the stupidity in music today too. Got me searchin for that realness..

RealHustla said...

"What good your words do, if they don't understand you. Don't go talkin' that ish, Badu, Badu-ooo-oo"

--Eryka Badu

Please make friends with your next up and coming rapper. He could use a good mentor, no.?

Torrance Stephens - All-Mi-T said...

Charming Driver
So tru

Kenya
So how did u feel and what did u think sister

The Socialite
Thanks babe and dug the tribuite to Bmac

Traycee
Thanks babe, how u been, and how is the lil man, get that biz up hone 4 me plz

BeKinky_Paula
Its all foul and thank u hon.

Marcus LANGFORD
Thanks bruh, now u see why I said u were and are wiser than u give yourself credit 4

OG, The Original Glamazon
I feel as if u get tired of me hon, should I be quite and give in?

OG, The Original Glamazon
tru

Blog Queen
Thanks babe. Im flattered


rainywalker
U and me both. Besides I know how u get down

Lovebabz
Much abliged

Anonymous
Yea folk, leave url – IH dead

Kitty
Sbm keep sit real and sad, real sad

RealHustla
If he were Cecil Rhodes, Id talk the same. And as the Damu say in an ancient African proverb “putting a stone in my bed does not make u my friend so u protect folk while I protect my community str8

cheneetot said...

very nice job

want to exchange link?

just visit my blog if u dont mind


www.cheneetot.blogspot.com

SjP said...

...and you ask me why I nominated u for the Emblem? U mentor so many of us without u even knowing it! Congrats! and very much obliged!

OG, The Original Glamazon said...

Tire of you? Never...never...never I love coming over here flexing my brain for you to see! *lol*

On the real you saying what needs to be said I am sure there are plenty of folks who never even have thought about the damage.

Once you know better you do better!!

Well sometimes I still have a little hood in me I just can't shake. Makes me wanna switch lanes on wood grain and tip on fo fo's!!

-OG

Big Cheekz said...

yeah, you did a good job breakin the lyrics down - the song is crazy - but i'm still hooked on the beat. beat wise, this song is one of my faves. hubby & i have the discussion about lyrics all the time & how the lyrics is part of the problem w/these kids today. he has been able to let go of certain types of music, while i'm still guilty of crankin that soulja boy with the kids every now & then :)

KELSO'S NUTS said...

TORRANCE: If I had some back-door or work-around way to vote for you in all categories, I would have. Congratulations, anyway. You deserve these accolades and many more. I haven't been asked to vote in any blog award competition of any kind nor do am I eligible to vote in any US election. I'll find ways to "vote" for you in the future. I can't "vote" enfranchise myself in any US election because I wouldn't want any candidate or cause I liked to have records of receipts of off-shore wires from international banking centers! LOL.

Down here, I give equally to both major parties. When I feel it's important for me to vote here, I will.

George Carlin. Bernie Mac. Isaac Hayes. Velly, velly sad. Every artist I admired before some age when maturity began will always seem immortal to me. The passing of those fellows is memento mori straight with no chaser.

As for the song, well...you sure choose the ULTIMATE questions to work on, si o no?

It's a chicken/egg thing as far as I'm concerned. I don't have any opinion worth anything to offer, other than to say that TI is a very good example of the puerile doggerel that gets thrown off by any spoken artistic medium. Silly baroque fabulism. In every genre you see it and hear it. But there's the world of difference between NWA, Ice Cube, Nas, Redman (and, for that matter, Brecht & Weill) at their most baroque and TI. As you rightly point out, Kanye West is a mixed bag.

This is a tremendous leap of faith on my part but I believe while bad art can sell and sell and sell, it cannot CHANGE society. From what I've observed, materialism for its own sake is a disease, with crime a symptom that throws off yet worse symptoms.

If any single person takes a couple of minutes to puzzle through this and ask "what does this mean?" or "what does real criminality consist of?" Most people will come up with the answers "intellectual vacuity" and "a life of extreme boredom punctuated by moments of extreme terror, anxiety and pain," respectively.

The Western world would still NEED to be ruled by the harsh strictures of Deutoronomy and Leviticus if that were not so.

If materialism and crime were exalted and trivialized in real life as they are in a few pieces of entertainment product, the whole world would be in a state of constant mayhem. Every home a mini Bosnia or Kosovo or Rwanda.

Somehow, the bread and meat and milk and eggs and Swanson Hungry Man TV Dinners and Wrigley's gum get delivered to the supermarket every morning, though.

Jay Midnyte said...

Yeah the beat is crazy. The way he singin is kind of annoying but the chorus is crack.

tz said...

LMAO!!! (not only at your blog..though not to be funny, but also at the comments) "Please make friends with your next up and coming rapper. He could use a good mentor, no.?" so true...Some people are music people and some people are lyrics people. Rappers cater to music people now...all beat no knowledge of lyrics and meaning. I pride myself on being both.

Jay Midnyte said...

Yall heard Russia Invaded China?

Linda said...

I love how you hit right through those lyrics.. you're like the last person on earth to actually listen to the words in a song and not just follow a catchy tune, *lol*

Compliments for that! :)

greetings from holland..!

KELSO'S NUTS said...

TORRANCE: Jay Midnyte once again brings a reality check to the mix.

My hat's off to you for your Obama skepticism. I have spent the whole week wondering why there was 10 million net Sterling for McCain in three futures markets alone and now I know why. The wise-guy money was focused on Russia and Georgia as opposed to Iran and certainly ignoring all American celebrity and racial issues.

Obama has totally booted this thing politically. I have no idea what his views are on the rightness or wrongness of which side. If he has any views.

Medvedev has his own reasons for getting Russia jammed up in this none of which have anything to do with the election in the USA but probably a lot to do with oil economics and politics. Perhaps, some diplomacy regarding Chechnya. Who knows?

I do know that Obama wasted a key Sunday trashing affirmative action when he should have been with his foreign policy team working out a sensible response and a range of policy options. Jeez, if only for the good of his own country, let alone his candidacy.

Who even knows what goes on in Obama's inner circle. Maybe they took some numbers and figured that if Obama just parrots the Republican anti-Russia line and tries to stave off a White (and Torrance) exodus by playing against type to a White domestic audience he'd be OK.

But Obama has had as bad a last 6 weeks as Hillary Clinton did in December and January. He phoned it in and let McCain define the agenda and the framing. I assumed that he was kind of gin for small win and was looking to peck away at some red states assuming that the obvious difference in ability between him and McCain would be a buffer. I can't blame him. I, too, was looking at Iran, at Israel, at Colombia, at Venezuela, at Lebanon and even at China, but a Russia/Georgia conflict?

I sure got caught napping but it's helpful to me...sort of. Obama is not supposed to get caught napping on this and when it's out there, he's supposed to have a strong opinion, not dick around trashing affirmative action.

Fuckin A buddy, Obama really wants Jones to vote for himself or Barr badly!

I don't particularly CARE which side if either Obama takes in this. I'm fine with his offering to help broker a peace. But he has to say SOMETHING.

I feel stupid. I'm looking at the futures and cash markets in this election and I see 10s of millions Sterling net for McCain and not a penny back for Obama all week without any significant domestic issues on the boil and a good electoral map for Obama and I don't take heed of this. Wow.

I think Americans can tolerate any degree of right-wing extremism. I have no doubt that if McCain gets elected no one will give a shit, but outside the USA we do give a shit very much.

We cannot survive with the economic instablility inherent in a USA committed to both a continuous "war on terror" and a new Cold War with Russia.

What's going to happen is the West outside the US is going to be completely neutral or pick the other sides (Radical Islam, Russia), because the West has no future with the US as a ROGUE, WEAK, LONE-MILITARY-SUPERPOWER.

We were looking to Obama to stanch the flow. If he doesn't know any better than to LEAD ON SOMETHING, ANYTHING, with WWIII in view, instead of trashing affirmative action, then the US deserves whatever it gets.

The world wants a US led by a strong, pro-active and sophisticated man. This Bill Cosby/Thomas Sowell routine when Russia going into a Central Asian sovereign nation, the Republicans are running a lunatic, and there's time on Bush's clock left, is not going to cut it.

I hope he's got a master plan here because I resented being bullshitted on Iraq by BushCo and I'll resent Obama just the same if he blows an unloseable election to a maniac.

I live in a country where the tone of the skin is irrelevant to the money and the ability. I get that Obama in the US has to make all sorts of compromises and I accepted that to a point. But fiddling with an Anti Affirmative Action message while Georgia burns is not compromise or dealing or power politics.

It's surrender.

Lady Zora, Chauncey DeVega, and Gordon Gartrelle said...

Congrats, congrats, congrats...

chauncey devega

Torrance Stephens - All-Mi-T said...

cheneetot
Will do and sure im down

SjP
Thank u and yes maam

OG, The Original Glamazon
4 me, im flattered and im just checking babe

Big Cheekz
U crank that solja boy - lol

KELSO'S NUTS
So true, maybe we need a church and we can take turns preaching and pass a collection plate. All three will be missed for real

Jay Midnyte
yep

tz
U saw what I said - lol

Jay Midnyte
The poor Ossetins - right

Linda
Thanks, how is the family?

KELSO'S NUTS
Yea, been going on since Thursday. I wrote about it Friday, but wanted to wait and see, looks like Churchil was right. I bet neither candidate has an inkling of understanding about the Ossetins, but bet they cramming as we speak

Lady Zora, Chauncey DeVega, and Gordon Gartrelle
Thank u very much

THE PRINCESS "CC" said...

Generally I agree with ya 100%, but I like this song and if I am not mistaken, hood as it maybe, he wrote it with his children's mother in mind so, for him this may be some form of a love ballad, this isn't the Great Luther or Stevie so what would one really expect, this is his display of how he'd show a woman, he wants her.

It's easy for me to find something I don't like in todays music, ALL OF IT, but for this song, I actually like it, that he speaks about completely spoiling a woman, generally guys call that "lame", but if he's referring to his child's mother and children, but just selling "a fantasy" to millions of hopefull TI groupies, so be it, the marketing scheme is perfect.

Aunt Jackie said...

wow!

so you actually listen to TI? That's really something right there. I wouldn't know one of his songs if it hit me on the head.

Met him out once and had no idea who he was.

I am not apart of the hip hop nation..on any level.

Torrance Stephens - All-Mi-T said...

THE PRINCESS "CC"
As I said, doing such for kids and woman is not lame. But would never call it tricking with respect to my kids or woman. My kids nor my women would considered tricks – its my responsibility. Besides, his woman has a “broke nigga”? Don’t think so

Besides, the point is what one is worth or their value can never be defined by your money – just my opinion

Aunt Jackie
Jackie, I would have loved to have seen that, u meeting hiom, how was the island sister

Soulstress said...

Hilarious!
TI is my boo boo and I like the song..but I totally undrstand ur point of view.

But I think the song is only focusin on what he culd do for the female financially & unfortunately ppl prob wuldnt be interested in hearin a song bout all the degrees a guy has..etc etc.

Tera said...

As always, you broke it down for us brotha!!! Lyrics now days stir up lots of controversy. At times, I can barely listen to anything but a beat without being disgusted! I guess I shouldn't ask you how you feel about "Lollipop" by Lil' Wayne huh? Great post!

P.S. I missed you too sweetheart ;-)

Jaimie @ Just Kiss 'N Makeup said...

man im so tired of all these people i love dying.

Crian said...

I have no idea who TI is but then again, don't listen to much music out here in the Irish countryside. Well on the nomination man, you deserve it.

NoRegrets said...

I liked this a lot. I had to go find an explanation of explicative writing (http://www.calvin.edu/academic/engl/engbers/210/litwriting.htm)
found it there. But really well done. My writing basically sucked until a I took a technical writing course once - it taught me to convey what I meant. Now I might be ready for such a style of writing.

IH dies, apple blossoms go on. Life cycles.

Congrats on the nom.

It's amazing what you find out when you actually look at lyrics of songs!!

Dusty said...

Congrats on your well-deserved rewards Torrance.

Thank you for breaking down the lyrics, kudos m'dear friend.

As several of your commenter's point out, most do not listen to the lyrics which is sad indeed as they perpetuate these 'values'.

Kenya said...

I was pissed off but not at those who were saying it - but at Kanye for making the song and for the industry for promoting such nonsense. Everyone listens to hip hop these days, even abroad. These "artists" are telling these people that they can say "nigga" because it's a term of endearment or it's cool to say or that the word doesn't have a deeper meaning.

I've heard both Black and white people say this word. And now I'm hearing people from other countries saying it. I work with a lot of international people and it seems that they don't even know what this word means. It's apparently something cool to say. Even Africans are saying it to simply mean a dude or man. I witnessed that twice last month. I cringe more when I hear Black people say it though because, we can call it what we want but, we are disparaging ourselves. The artists say they are talking about their own realities but they are doing more to glorify a certain lifestyle than anything else. It's truly a shame.

And if we have truly taken the sting out of the word we should be prepared to greet with open arms a white dude that comes up saying "What up my niggaaaaa!" which is doubt is likely to happen.

Dave said...

To me its' just a song. These same people bitching now, I wonder if they were crying when Shaft , or Boys n da hood first dropped.

I see this from a young man who has means and a Father. Its' about what values you were taught at home. I mentor those who are fatherless a small group. I do my part to shut up the what about our black kids set they who always cry and moan.

Many people I know also have common sense. They know a song is just that a song. Even as a young dude all through private school I knew a song was just music.

I agree I don't spend unless its' family, close friends or spending more dying currency aka merica dollars to make more EUROS/ failing dollars.


In the south it would seem tricking is a major thing among those that do it. I don't feel a lot of women in my age group are worth spending my money on. Some women come from broken homes and not having a father as the head of the household is something I won't deal with.

You have a lot of people who just come into a little money and don't know what to do with it. They run to Lennox mall and to the benz lot the first chance they get.


I'm getting tired of fighting in the trenches everyday. In a place who's currency is in the shitter and landmarks are being sold off to private companies overseas and these dummies figure it out when CNN says something. When this happens its' just to damn late.

People wanna sit up and arm chair qb talk about the problems on rev rollo goodlove show aka sharpton and Hannity and Combs. Little do they know these so called leaders are making good money while Tom or Kesiha who called Rev Goodlove still has their issues.

The dem and the repubs battle for the highest seat in the land is a great sitcom for me. Lets not forget those people who are of either party.

profunksticated said...

Dawg,

You've made me feel a whole lot better about my spouse not having some big rock on her finger. I can't see spending thousands of dollars like that.

You ever see Ice Road Truckers? They risk their lives to drive over an ice road ice to reach of all things, a diamond mine.

Dave said...

Its the Parents job to raise their kids. Its the same dumb argument I heard. My response if You cannot afford kids don't have them. Kids cost money not manhood or womanhood. You cannot pay for diapers with a back in my day folk poem or 30 page diatribe.


I've seen to many people do this. They ask why I don't have kids. I'm young man I'm not about to fuck up my life this early. I'd rather buy some land overseas.

Torrance Stephens - All-Mi-T said...

Soulstress
The intended outcome of slavery was to build a county and we see what happened to a people and a continent

Tera
Thanks hon

Jaimie @ Just Kiss 'N Makeup
U love dying?

Crian
U aint missed much folk

NoRegrets
My writing still sucks LOL

Dusty
Well said and thank u

Kenya
Dave would say its just a song. But if books have moved folks, or speeches like MLK or malcom, why not a song – in a good or bad way?-sorry more directed at dave

Dave
Well you are entitled to your opinion, albeit myopis. I mean a movie is just a movie. Albeit folk break out of prison using tactics the see in a movie or drag atm machines out using trucks by getting the idea from a movie.
And as for common sense, maybe maybe not. Common sense is to save but Im sure u see and know folks who buy shit they cant afford. And u make my argument for me. Thanks folk

profunksticated
Yea, not to mention I baught the woman I WAS engaged to a 2.5 caret ring she lost it and asked for another – im like over.

Dave
Land anywhere is good in this global economy. And Kids, im lost? U still in Memphis jones

Veronica Wright said...

THANK YOU! someone else that agrees that the music (beat) is not as important as the message (lyrics).

I LONG so much for some QUALITY music! I'm not getting it! :-(

i've resorted to Rachelle Farrell, Christian Scott and the like

no_slappz said...

There is no doubt that people who address each other in contemptuous and demeaning terms give a lot of other people will the idea that contempt and disparagement are appropriate.

Torrance, the overwhelming belief on your site that oil prices are going up and the dollar will continue to lose value tells me the worst has passed for both. Oil is heading down and the dollar up.

A year ago oil was $65 a barrel. It may not return to that level, but it's heading below $100 soon.

Darius T. Williams said...

Congrats on the nods...I'm trying to get to your level.

T.C. said...

this is extremely interesting way to present things, of course its the way i think about things, but i don't seem to be able to say things the way you (and others) can...i want to share this with the youth i am working with in this program called Music & Morals...let me know if i have permission please

Ieisha said...

Biggest problem our youth faces is that they feel their options are limited on what or who they can become. They feel their claim to fame is being an athlete or a rapper. First order of business is to be a businessman/woman. And to become that, education is on top of the list as things to conquer.

Great post!

KELSO'S NUTS said...

TORRANCE:

For real.

The "candidates" cannot wait until Abkhazia becomes the next problem to figure out Central Asian ethnic and cultural tension.

Wait a second...you mean neither mainstream candidate has ever heard of Abkhazia?

How silly of me. Of course. I'm reminded of a great Jeff Altman routine about going on a vacation to Chamonix and checking in to a hotel. The desk clerk asks him "American?" ALTMAN: "Yes. I'm an American. I like things SWEET and MEATY!"

Keisha "Kitten" Isaacs said...

Hey Brother! Great post....Peace & Blessings

A Go Bytch said...

The d*** lyrics to the song had me confused....

Go B.

T.Allen-Mercado said...

My word Torrance, as my grandma says, "You ain't ne'er lie." So true, so sad. One of the many perks and pleasures of educating my children at home is being able to teach *real* black history and offer understanding as to where and how all of this glorification of blood diamonds and denigration of goddesses was born. Kanye needs to walk the walk, *if* he produced that track knowingly, he's talking out of both sides of his reconstructed mouth.

Doc C said...

I seem to recall a song by Babyface called "Soon as I get home from work" that had everyone in a lurch.

"I give good love
I'll buy your clothes
I'll cook your dinner too
Soon as I get home from work
I'll pay your rent
Your faithful lover
Soon as I get home, soon as I get home from work....
You're the kind of woman
That needs a man with lots of cash
With a stack of major credit cards
And with me you don't have to ask"

Now I will admit that the delivery is alittle more "raw" in the TI song, but if you ask me, the message is about the same. *shoulder shrug*

Doc C said...

ooooooo by the way T, it's Maria from the roundup!!

Doc C said...

I seem to recall a song by Babyface called "Soon as I get home from work" that had everyone in a lurch.

"I give good love
I'll buy your clothes
I'll cook your dinner too
Soon as I get home from work
I'll pay your rent
Your faithful lover
Soon as I get home, soon as I get home from work....
You're the kind of woman
That needs a man with lots of cash
With a stack of major credit cards
And with me you don't have to ask"

Now I will admit that the delivery is alittle more "raw" in the TI song, but if you ask me, the message is about the same. *shoulder shrug*

WArd PrEfEct said...

what's real, fam? I have always been a conscious cat, and I find that there are so much misogynistic music out, one cannot begin to differentiate unless you are open to underground acts.

The radio is a lot of what most people are exposed to. I can't even listen to it most times, and then I just as well turn off BET. I don't know man, I have become very pessimistic about our world and the media that pulls the strings of this grand puppet show.

msladydeborah said...

I feel for all parties involved. These are not the type of lyrics that I grew up listening to. I would probably slap the shyt out of some male for even going there with me.

What bothers me about the support base, is the fact that there a lot of women who are not offended by what is said. That only supports the culture of its-okay-to demean-me!

Aunt Jackie said...

I am shocked that no one brought up the fact that it is coded in the very nature of a woman to be attracted to a provider and these types of songs at core are mating calls. There are men who take pride in being able to provide for women and there are men who take pride in doing nothing for women.

Now I don't listen to TI or most of these rappers but I know that their music is the equivalent of a man beating on his chest.

What's wrong with a woman wanting a man to care and provide for her? What's wrong with the man being the head of the household and shot caller in his life? TI has a gang of children with his woman I would hope to God he was taking care of them and allowing her to be a mother.
Just my two cents.

I found the dude to be cool although he is small and looked like a well dressed 7th grader. He seemed smart which is why I was sad when he caught that case.

RiPPa said...

Brother Jones...

well done!!!!!!!!

What you described is our facination with the concept of the dumbing down of America. I say America because its not just a black thing. Unfortunately, this has become an epidemic for our youth.

But hey, in order to reach them, I guess we must dumb down, or get on their level in order to lift them up.

no_slappz said...

t-allen mercado, you wrote:

"...*real* black history..."

What is "real" black history?

Miss April Joy said...

this was very interesting to read, the commercialization of Hip-Hop which resulted in Rap music ruined it for the state of music today. Now every rapper whether he is saying something positive or negative is going to given a bad label because of what Rap has done to the music industry. There are few artists who truely represent what Hip-hip is about like Common, Talib Kweli, Mos Dep, even Jay-Z and Kanye

Bygbaby said...

Never had crab apples, they seem too tart. Is they?

Bygbaby

laughing808 said...

where oh where is hip-hop?

Good post.

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